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  1. I really enjoyed reading this. Your writing cut straight to my emotions and for the duration of the read you had command of them. The pain that you describe is what took me to my career.

    I didn’t feel too much pain at the hands of bullies. Some, but not enough ever to say I was bullied.

    The thing for me is I easily feel the pain of others.

    Touching Dave, really touching. I’m going to leave it there for now.

    It doesn’t do for a man to tear up over his breakfast cereal.

    Dave Fowlers last blog post..Flaps. Check. Undercarriage. Check.

  2. Dave, thanks for this.

    I need to go and think about this for awhile before I honestly comment on it.

    But for now, thank you.

  3. Dave,
    What you’ve described is one of the most difficult things as a parent. Pain is good for them, it’s good for all of us. Without it we are soft. There is no doubt that your pain helped to shape your ample talent. Sweet is not sweet without the sour. You are a good man, and that is exactly what you are going to raise.

    Writer Dads last blog post..Namasté

  4. Yikes Blogger Dad. Such an outpouring!
    I know exactly what you mean. I recently posted about this myself
    http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/fromdawntillrusk/2008/09/bullying.html
    I was bullied and believe it made me the person I am today, but I do not ever want my children to suffer in that way. But then after posting on that issue, a colleague told me about how he was bullied at school and his mum stepped in and made it 10 times worse.
    How you deal with it as a parent is a really difficult issue and one I am really not looking forward to.
    My son often uses comedy now to difuse a situation and it works – at the moment.

    Really BD, that’s some tough stuff you’ve been through. Thanks for sharing.

    Taras last blog post..The business of blogging

  5. Sal

    A child’s innocence is an amazing thing. No matter what is going on around, bills, fights, struggles, etc. the child keeps on doing what he/she knows how to do best, be a child. We cannot protect our kids forever, for even the mother bear has to let her cub fend for itself at some point, in order to survive, but take the time while it is there for the taking and protect away!

    Sals last blog post..Paper or Plastic With Writer Dad

  6. I’m with you…I don’t want my kids’ innocence to be lost to worrying about other kids’ treatments of them. Unfortunately (maybe fortunately) I’d mentally prepared myself for the day my kids got teased. I’d been teased a lot for my name and because I’d had really crooked teeth and an overbite. After braces and reconstructive surgery as a teenager, I saw how people changed their behavior toward me – the same people who used to tease me. I hated them for their shallowness, but at the same time, it made me tougher. I learned to disregard their opinions of me. When I had my kids, I knew they would be teased about something. What I’ve done to prepare them is to let them make choices for themselves and not criticize, but support them (even though watching your child head to preschool in an orange shirt and orange pants because “they match” is hard to do), I ask their opinion on various things, and I let them make mistakes. Without doing these things, I don’t think my kids could build the confidence, self-esteem or proper self-image to stand up to teasing. So when my older son came home and said that some kids at school said he was skinny (he’s 5th percentile on weight), and asked if he was, I acknowledged that he was (in a positive way), but that other people are too, or they’re fat, or have brown hair or blond or whatever. I told him the important thing was how he treated other people and how he felt on the inside. I did explain that there would always be people who make a big deal about the things that don’t matter, and that he could always talk to me (or his dad) about it. That seemed to put him at ease and he went on about his business.

    Anyway, sorry for the extended comment, but your post really hit home with me.

  7. “Only when I stopped caring what others thought, was I able to find the strength to be myself.”

    What a profound statement!

    I’ve really enjoyed these past two days’ posts. Very thought provoking and well-written.

    GreenJellos last blog post..New Stadium

  8. Dave – Thank you, I appreciate the kind words. I hope you weren’t eating Wheaties or something with an athlete on the cover as you wept.

    Matthew – Thank you.

    Writer Dad – Thank you. I especially like your last sentence.

    Sal – Thank you. Well said.

    Maha – Thank you for sharing your story. I’d never thought about that part, asking their opinions to build their confidence. That sounds like a great plan. I will make every effort to do the same.

    GreenJello – Thank you, I appreciate the comment. I was worried that these posts might be a bit too serious or too personal. I’m glad that some of you relate or find value in them. Thanks again.

  9. Dot

    It’s very special for me reading about a man’s tender feelings for his son.

    Not that I’m that regular a visitor here, but I like serious, I like personal. Nice post.

    Dots last blog post..Haiku Friday

  10. Hey, you doofus. I never said I was weeping! I just got something in my eye and my eye got a bit moist. That’s all. It must have been a dust particle or something.

    Dave Fowlers last blog post..Flaps. Check. Undercarriage. Check.

  11. Sal

    @Dave: Yea, it was rather warm in there as well. My eyes were starting to sweat too. I hate eye sweat, makes your eyes water and all, kinda stings with all that salt and such.

    Sals last blog post..Paper or Plastic With Writer Dad

  12. Dude! You have Other Dave crying in his Wheaties! Wicked.

    Seriously, there truly are tons of people out there who can completely relate to your story. So much about parenting is bittersweet. Great joys and great pains, all rolled into one.

    (We went to the park today and I though of you and E.) :)

    Jamie Simmermans last blog post..Picking the Brain of Naomi Dunford

  13. It’s a balancing act, isn’t it, between protecting and giving them room to grow?

    Beautifully said.

    Shade and Sweetwater,
    K (who has been known to mutter “if that little punk pushes the Evil Genius one more time, I am going to kick his tiny ass!” at the playground)

    Kyddryns last blog post..The Gypsy Stirring

  14. Great post that really hit home. I was bullied at school, just for being quiet and not sleeping with boys from age fourteen onwards! Now I have a little girl myself and I dread to think what she will have to deal with. I didn’t get the right parental support when it was happening and so I vow every day to make sure we will be there for our daughter. Not only that but to give her the confidence to get through anything that may (and will) come her way. You’re so right about the stuff that happens goes to shape who you are – (Having left school, I saw the biggest bully pushing a pram,alone, aged 18 – enough said). Doesn’t stop you wanting to wrap up your children in cotton wool though!

    that girl39s last blog post..Ouch…and… I Beg Your Pardon?!?

  15. Thank you for describing the type of bullying you had as a child. I know that I was bullied, as was my husband, and we always worry that our kids will be bullied. It seems like such an impossible thing for us to break free of it as children.

    It is such a hard task to ask any parent to let their child suffer. My heart seems so tender after having children, and as a parent, I seem to feel almost every emotion they feel. It is tough to love sometimes. :)

    Rosie:)s last blog post..Pumpkin Cheesecake

  16. This series is one of my favorites. I wonder about these very same issues for my same boys, and until I can find a way to move closer to them it becomes infinitely harder to guide them day to day. They each have distinct personalities and the little exposure they have had with bullies, although minor in comparison, they handle according to those personalities.

    As I read about your experiences growing up it made me think a little bit about mine. I grew up waaaaaaay sheltered. Had loving parents, rural PA, Christian school – my innocence for the most part remained in tact through graduation. Then I joined the Army and suddenly I’m thrown in with guys from all over – my “safety buddy” used to own a strip club for example (and here I am a virgin). I digress.

    My point is that somewhere in life, boys in particular, are going to be faced with these types of situations at some point in their life. It’s a right of passage. What will get them through is the tools their parents pass on to the them. I don’t regret how I grew up, but the one mistake I am cognizant of is instead of explaining the consequences of some of the stuff out there, I was just told to stay away from it. It ended up just making me curious.

    Really good subject. Tara’s post was really good on this too. Thanks

    CK Lunchboxs last blog post..CLARK KENT’S INBOX October 10th

  17. I so appreciate your courage to be so frank and self-disclosing. It really hit me in a number of ways. I would never want one of my sons to go through what your or I expereinced as children. However, I can’t help but think of what you have now given to so many of us because you came through it with wisdom and a strong character.

    It kills me to watch others treat my children in an unkind way. But it happens. When our oldest son was only eight, one of the most conniving boys I’ve ever known started stocking him in the neighborhood. I wanted to ring the kids neck. I couldn’t believe my son was dealing with this at his age from this punk kid. It took all I had to work with my son, allow him to grow from the experience and learn how to deal with tough people and issues for himself. I’m no pro. I know it was the best thing, but it still wasn’t easy.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings from this personal experience.

    B. Wildes last blog post..Being Volunteered to Shovel-out the Barn

  18. Dot – Thank you for stopping by and commenting. I appreciate it. As for the serious and personal, I try and mix it up a little, serious one day, musings on topics like poopie on others.

    Dave – Likely story. Um, hum.

    Sal – I wasn’t aware that you and Dave had breakfast together. Quite a journey for you to the UK, eh?

    Jamie – Thank you. And yes, I love to make Other Dave cry. It’s one of the few perks writing this blog. And thank you for thinking of me and E.

    Kyddryn – Thank you. And LOL at K!

    Thatgirl39 – Thanks for visiting. It sounds like you learned and will do right by your daughter. Best of luck!

    CK Lunchbox – Thank you. I don’t envy you having to deal with this for all of your children. And, a virgin in the Army? Wow, you musta’ got picked on.

    B. Wilde – thanks for your nice words. And that’s some restraint on your part with that punk! I hope I can restrain as well.

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